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Bus driver jailed

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by dhd.evans, 16 Feb 2012.

    MacB Executive Vice President

    I have to agree, regardless of lane discipline or not by the bus, it looked clear what he was going to do and the bike really wasn't going to be inconvenienced by slowing slightly. If I made a fuss over everything like that I'd probably never complete a journey. I'll take primary and all that but I still ride defensively, ie ready to give way if need be and I wouldn't be arsed making a big thing about it.

    It's a weird one as I'm really not a fan of 'militant' style cycling but I also abhor even the merest hint of victim blaming. The bus driver's a psycho and should never be behind the wheel of a vehicle again. There is no behaviour, reasonably imaginable, that in any way mitigates the bus drivers insane response. Yet I still think the cyclist was a bit of a cock.
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    ferret fur Executive Member

    Location:
    Roseburn
    But if it meant that little to you, how much impact did it have on the driver. If she even noticed I expect she forgot all about it by the time she got home. The point about making a fuss is to raise the driver's awareness of what they have done... so they pay more attention to the possiblilty that there might be a cyclist present on the road next time they are driving. Even if this heightened awareness only lasts a week it might prevent soemone else's SMIDSY being rather more painful.

    MacB Executive Vice President

    Perfectly valid but there are ways of making a point, I wouldn't beat on a car or ping windscreen wipers as a matter of course. But then nor would I try to kill somebody for doing it to my car.

    baydreamer Member

    I'm a bus driver 1st, cyclist 2nd.
    Bus drivers are supposed to be professional drivers! Gives us 'good' bus drivers a bad image!
    There are bad drivers on the road,as well as bad cyclists. This gives NO EXCUSE for the actions of this bus driver! Hope he NEVER gets his driving license back!!!!!!

    Maz Vice President

    Location:
    Leicester

    I agree. A quick squeeze on the brakes and slot in behind the bus - job done. All this bother would've been avoided. No broken bones, no driver in prison.
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    Cubist Pennine hill dweller and willy-waver

    Location:
    Ovver 'thill
    That latest BBC link amuses me. It shows Magnatom's tanker incident which, apparently he filmed to illustrate this sort of incident. I hadn't realised it was a setup..............
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    PK99 Executive Member

    Location:
    SW19
    no this one roundabout.JPG

    and the still from the bbc video:

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    growingvegetables Executive Member

    Location:
    Leeds
    I think it is, and yup there's no bus lane - and if your turn the photo view round 180, it looks like the bus was in the wrong lane (one of the two for taking the first exit), and cut across on the roundabout.

    subaqua Senior Member

    Location:
    Leytonstone
    apparrently strathclyde polis thought the same too. :angry:

    400bhp Senior Member

    That's the roundabout I posted.

    400bhp Senior Member

    col Vice President

    Road rage, what this was, needs a reason. If thats one person doing or saying something to annoy or wind up the other because they didnt like what the other did, then that is the spark for a possible road rage incident. Some people are expert on getting others angry on purpose, as they seem to think its a good retaliation. Then these same wind up experts complain when it all goes wrong on them. Most of these so called clever people, who have this ability and use it when they want to upset someone, will never admit to it. They are inherintly cowards, and are unable to be direct, as they fear a face to face confrontation. But what these people are actually doing, is possibly causing a more dangerous confrontation, not as clever as they thought eh?
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    lulubel Executive Member

    Location:
    Malaga, Spain
    Buses sometimes have to approach junctions in the wrong lane because they either aren't given the room they need to move over (which buses need a lot of) or there's a badly placed bus stop just before the junction. It happened to me quite often.

    lulubel Executive Member

    Location:
    Malaga, Spain
    The video wouldn't load for me for some reason, but I did look at the still PK99 posted of the bus and cyclist joining the roundabout. I don't know about anyone else, but there's NO WAY I'd do anything but get behind the bus from that position. I'd be much too concerned about getting trapped between the bus and the vehicles in the next lane over.

    summerdays Vice President

    Location:
    Bristol
    Now that I've seen the longer report I can understand a bit more how the first incident occurred - I don't use St James Barton from that direction ... the view shown slightly earlier up the thread is my normal approach to the roundabout. In this incident the bus and the cyclist look like the entered from the next junction around.
    http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=stokes croft &hl=en&ll=51.45932,-2.58955&spn=0.001113,0.002709&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=14.097003,39.506836&hnear=Stokes Croft, Bristol, Avon BS1, United Kingdom&t=m&layer=c&cbll=51.45932,-2.58955&panoid=0e1ikkNxfYqM5ugg3gaWpg&cbp=12,259.85,,1,1.36&z=19
    At that junction there is a lane to the left of the lights for buses only that isn't controlled by lights but does have a give way. So normally when I'm approaching it from on the roundabout they will stop if you have the green light on the RAB.

    In this situation I don't think the bus should have attempted to join the RAB at the same time as the traffic from the same junction since there could potentially be a reasonable amount of traffic that would be taking the next exit and therefore crossing paths. It looks like potentially bad design I think of the RAB approach for the bus and I (not a bus driver) would have been tempted to enter the RAB using the normal lanes to at least put myself in the correct lane that I wanted to be in (unless the stop immediately prior to that was one that this bus uses).
  1. Not pleasant to watch but why was the cyclist in the middle of the road? Looks like he swerved to stop/ slow the bus. No matter what the actions of the cyclist where the bus driver was way out of order and such a light sentence. :cursing:

    col Vice President

    Seems for the par.

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